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White Star Liner - RMS
Zeppelin
Can anyone provide more information about
the postcard below of RMS Zeppelin, in what I assume
were White Star colours? What services did she operate during
her brief period of White Star management in 1919/20?
Zeppelin was built in 1915 for Norddeutschen Lloyd, but
was laid up throughout the First World War. She was passed to
the UK in 1919 as war reparation for U-boat losses, and was
placed under White Star management whilst awaiting a buyer. I
have found no detailed records of what she was used for by White
Star, although one book refers her to doing some work with the
US Navy (troop movements back to the US?). She appears to be in
White Star Line colours in the card, which is titled RMS
Zeppelin ion the front. There are publisher details on the
reverse. The brown lifeboats are apparently what she was
delivered with from Germany. It seems unusual to print such a
card in the chaotic times just after the war. In 1920 she was
bought by the Orient Line and went for refitting. Her first
voyage with Orient Line was from London to Australia on 12th
November 1921, by then renamed Ormuz. I am assuming the
writer of the card was on this voyage, since it was posted from
Gibraltar. It is postmarked 23rd November 1923 in London,
presumably on its arrival back there on a return ship. No doubt
plenty of cards as Zeppelin were still in stock, and Orient may
not have had time to print their own card. Did Orient issue an
official card as Ormuz? I do not have one, just a local
card whilst on a cruise in Norway. The writer says he was on his
way to India - did Orient Line ships call at India on the way to
Australia? I believe that they took coal at Colombo.
Any
further details about this ship would be welcomed.
This interesting card is available for sale from
stan.m@virgin.net
Can anyone provide more details on the
Penzance excursion-passenger vessel shown below, identified as
either the Nora or Pioneer in different sources?
Graham Thorne writes:- The
attached photograph appeared in The Cornishman newspaper just
before Christmas. I can't seem to find out anything about her
and I was wondering if you could throw any light on the subject.
Alan Kittridge writes:-
The late Clive Carter, in his book The
Port of Penzance a History, shows the same picture but names the
launch as the Nora which ran trips to Lamorna and other coves.
In Clive's picture there is more of the foremast shown and the
boat is flying a destination flag, in this instance Logan Rock
and Penberth Cove. She looks like a pilot cutter with a lug sail
on her mizzen mast – possibly to hold her to wind while she
waited to 'speak' a ship offshore. She was undoubtedly working
as a '12' – i.e. licenced locally, not by the Board of Trade.
Not much help – now we don't even know whether she was the
Pioneer or the Nora.
Unknown
Cargo-Passenger Liner
Various Unknown Vessels
Can
anyone identify any of the following ships?
Please
refer to the image number in replies.
2009
Image 1
2009
Image 2
2009
Image 3
2009
Image 5
2009
Image 6 at Ischia
2009
Image 7 at Ischia
2009
Image 7 at Ischia enlarged
Unknown Vessel at Brindisi
Can
anyone identify the ship on the right at Brindisi?
Burkhard Schütt
writes:- The location is Brindisi and the first ship seems to
be Adriatica's Barletta. First I have thought the second
vessel with a clipper bow is the Greek Hellas, Birkenhead-built
as a yacht for Mr Vanderbilt as the Valiant. There are
some simularities. But if so, she must have been rebuilt.
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Unknown Vessel at Genoa
Can
anyone identify this ship?
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HMS Magician II
The photographic
postcard below shows the HMS Magician II at Dunoon in
1947. She was built by the Ailsa SB Co as Magician in
1939 to replace the naval ferries Harlequin (ex-Clyde
paddle steamer Strathmore) and Nimble (ex-Roslin Castle)
which ran betwen Chatham and Sheerness. However Magician
was passed to the Army for use as a hospital ship. She was returned
to the RN in 1945, and renamed Magician II. She was scrapped
in 1952.
Does anyone
know anything more about the design and construction of this
vessel? It seems very extravagent under the prevailing conditions
to consider a purpose-built ferry when so many other vessels
would have been available. Had she originally been ordered by
somebody else?
Magician
II at
Dunoon on 17/07/1947.
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Lancs
& Yorks' Crew Pictures
Two crew photographs
of Lancashire & Yorkshire Fleetwood-Belsfast steamers Duke
of Cornwall
and Duke
of Albany.
Can anyone date these images or identify anyone, particularly
the captain? I presume between 1907 and 1914 since 1907 is when
Duke
of Albany
was built, and she was lost in the war.
Photograph
of the crew of Duke
of Cornwall.
Can
anyone date this image or identify anyone?
Scan:
Jennie Ashby
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Photograph
of the crew of Duke
of Albany.
Can
anyone date this image or identify anyone?
Scan:
Jennie Ashby
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The
captain of Duke
of Albany
has been identified as Robert Lyttle, shown below with wife and
children.
He also
appears to be next to the captain on the Duke of Cornwall photo.
Scan:
John Lyttle (3)
This
is an earlier image with Robert Lyttle and the crew of the LYR
paddle steamer Princess of Wales.
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Captain
Robert Lyttle's son John Lyttle (1), also served on the Duke
of Albany.
He was
aboard Duke of Albany when she was torpedoed.
Seen
here with his son John Lyttle (2)
Scan:
John Lyttle (3)
Porcelain
from HMS Duke of Albany.
Scan:
John Lyttle (3)
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Lancs
& Yorks' Duke of Cornwall at Zeebrugge?
Did Duke
of Cornwall
ever operate to Zeebrugge? Duke of Cornwall was built by Vickers
for the joint LYR/LNWR Fleetwood-Ireland services in 1898. I
have an official Hull-Zeebrugge postcard of Duke of Cornwall, although none of my
books refer to her ever operating on the East Coast. The card
was issued by local agents in Belgium, not the LYR.
Official
postcard of Duke of Cornwall on the Hull-Zeebrugge service,
plus card back.
Posted
from Zeebrugge in 1914.
Large
Windermere Steam Yacht
Postcard
of a large steam yacht at the Low Wood Hotel, Lake Windermere.
Can
anyone identify this vessel? Email: simplon@simplon.co.uk
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Paddlesteamer
in Dun Laoghaire
A fine paddlesteamer
which appears in a number of photos of Dun Laoghaire, Ireland
(Kingstown). I have been seeking to identify this steamer for
some years. Might it be the Commissioners for Irish Lights vessel
Princess Alexandra (1863-1904)? She is very similar in
design to the Trinity
House
tenders Galatea (1868) and Vestal (2) (1855), but
with smaller paddleboxes? Can anyone help? mailto:simplon@simplon.co.uk
SHS Writes:-
I have a copy of this card and after some research I believe
that she is the 'Kingfisher', which served in an official capacity
at Kingstown (I cannot presently remember what as!). There is
an engraving of her launching in the 'Illustrated London News'
Irish
Coast in Epirotiki Service
This postcard
shows the ex-Irish
Coast
in Epirotiki
Lines
service in Rethymnon. Irish Coast was sold to Epirotiki Lines in 1968. She received the names Orpheus,
Semiramis II and Achilleus in quick succession, before
settling with Apollon
XI.
This was rendered as Apollon 11 in 1980. She was sold
in 1981, and was lost in a typhoon in 1989. Can anyone identify
which name she would be carrying at this stage? She subsequently
considerable modification before becoming Apollon
XI/Apollon 11,
although she is has already received a new bow in this Rethymnon
card.
Scan:
Micahel Kenyon.
A later
Epirotiki card as Apollon XI
showing modifications.
Liner
in Piraeus
A liner in Piraeus.
I wondered if it was the HAPAG liner Moltke which did sail from the Mediterranean (Genoa),
though I am not sure if she went to Piraeus. The card was published
in the series "Orient" (serial 68552) by M.Gl.&
M. of Hamburg, which might tie it in to HAPAG.
Peter Koenig
writes:- Certainly looks like the Barbarossa Class, but there
were so many. Check Hansen, Passenger Liners from Germany 1816-1990,
p. 48 -- foremast looks more like Grosser Kurfurst. The Moltke,
at p. 67, had fairly prominent cargo booms. Hansen refers to
Moltke's sister Blucher as making occasional cruises, but places
Moltke on the Genoa-New York run. I assume that is Piraeus, but
don't know.
Canadian
Pacific Duchess
A postcard
of one of the four Canadian Pacific Duchesses in the Mersey.
Can anyone identify which one?
The
four sisters were:- Duchess of Atholl, Duchess of Bedford, Duchess of Richmond and Duchess
of York.
Thames
Steam Launches
This appears
to be a Salter Brothers steamer at Abingdon, on Photochrom postcard
83478, posted in February 1946. Can anyone identify it?
Iain MacLeod
writes:- The mystery steamer is - I think - Goring, Wargrave
or Oxford. I'll be interested to know if anyone is able to be
more specific.
Viper
on War Service
Barry Friedman
writes:- I found your website in the course of trying to research
a card (attached). I think that the Base Army Post Office was
in Alexandria where the ship was headed for...do you know if
the handstamped Pirie ar the lower center is that of General
Pirie
and can you tell me any more about this card?
Does anyone
have any information on Viper's war service? Did she travel as
far as Alexandria?
The
front and back of the card is shown below.
Link to an enlarged
image of the back.
Mystery
Vessel from Iran
A tall order
this one, but I thought it of sufficient interest to include.
The location is Bander Pahlavi, now Bander-e Anzali on the Caspian
Sea coast of Iran. The card was posted 28th July 1934, and the
message relates to the sale of chemicals, but includes various
strange statements such as "Beware small women in the land
of volcanoes!" Is this actually a passenger steamer? There
is no cargo on the quay, and she has no obvious cargo handling
equipment, but her lines look more like a freighter. Any thoughts
would be welcome.
Solved Queries
Further
details welcome if you can add to the information supplied.
Send
to email address: simplon@simplon.co.uk
Sheppey Queen - Southend-Sheerness Ferry
The postcard
below shows an unidentified vessel on the Southend-Sheerness ferry, presumably prior
to 1959 when the first Anzio ferry started. My current
view is that it is the Sheppey Queen
which is still in existence.
Luke Farley
writes:-
I believe
thet image is of the My Queen (ex-Gondolier Queen).
She was built in Essex and used on a ferry in the area, and her
hull is very, very similar to the one in the photo. She is also
described a the 'Dunkirk Little Ships' website as being almost
completely open, with a wheelhouse amidships - and your image
seems to fit this description. My Queen is now based at
Starcross, although she has also been based on the Thames, at
Plymouth and at Dartmouth in the past.
Andy Richards
writes:-
I would like
to say it is good to see all this information about the boats.
The boat leaving Sheernes is the My Queen.
Roger Bolton
writes:- Further
to our conversation on "Waverley" I regret I too am
unable to identify the vessel on the Southend-Sheerness ferry
route. I don't think it's "My Queen" because (1) I
believe she had no wheelhouse whilst at Southend and (2) I think
your vessel's freeboard is greater than "My Queen".
John Armstrong
writes:-
This vessel
is the Trevarno formerly owned by Torbay Crusing. Mrs
E Wallis & Mr Head owned and ran her from Torquay around
1950 / 1953. She had new AEC engines installed by my father.
Postcard
of an unidentified vessel on the Southend-Sheerness ferry.
Published:
Shoesmith & Etheridge 'Norman Series' - Hastings.
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Unknown
Vessel - Ionia of HML
Michael Kenyon
writes:- I
am very confident that the ship in image 4 is Hellenic Mediterraneans
Ionia. The port is Genoa, as it says on the card where
the Ionia called on each voyage. The card you have of
Ionia does not show life boats on the poop deck however
she did have these as the attached picture and deckplan show
as in image 4. Also, if you look at the portholes on the
poop deck in the picture at Genoa and look at the deckplan they
match up fairly well (not easy to do though). From the picture
it looks like at some stage (after the picture in Genoa) they
put a cap on her funnel. She was an interesting ship and I think
I have read that she was chartered out at times, certainly her
Mediterranean service was only in the summer months with Media
replacing her in the winter.
Ionia of HML - Image 4
Ionia of HML - Image 4 enlarged
Ionia of HML
Ionia of HML withlifeboats
aft.
Deckplan
of Ionia of HML showing lifeboats
Princess Maud at Southend
Julian Wilson
has confirmed that Princess Maud of the Southend Motor
Navigation Co. She was comandeered for 'Operation Dynamo', the
Dunkirk evacuation, as were all the shallow-draft SMNCo pleasure
boats, but did not return, although no details were ever obtained
as to her exact fate. There were three subsequent Princess
Mauds after the war.
My original
query>:- Can
anyone provide information on the the vessel Princess Maud
supposedly photographed at Southend? Is she the same vessel built
1920 used by Alfred Crouch 1947-49, and as White Swan
by LJ Robinson (1950-51), W & A Metcalf (1952-1960) and MWH
Tug & Passenger Boat Co (1961-63), all of London (as listed
in Dix - Royal River Highway).
Princess
Maud
photographed at Southend
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Saint Nikolay at Yalta
Can
anyone identify this ship?
Igor Ageev writes:-
This is Saint
Nikolay, belonging to ROP&T (Russian society of steamship
and trade).
John Thomson
writes:-
I'm fairly sure the vessel shown is Russian ship that operated
in the Black Sea, pre-WW I going by the old Russian flag. On
the back is printed:- Ialta. Depart du paquebot. Crimee. and
undoubtedly this same message is printed in Russian above it.
I'm guessing Ialta is what we know as Yalta.
Saint
Nikolay,
belonged to ROP&T
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Panormitis at Rhodes
Can
anyone identify this ship?
Harald Lorentzen
writes:-
This is Panormitis, built 1935 at Nyland Verksted, Oslo
(322) as SS Fjellstrand for AS Nesoddens Dampskipsselskap,
Oslo, Norway. She was a passenger ferry between Oslo city and
the peninsula of Nesodden. Mostly use in summer trafic. Length:
110,1 m - Width: 21,9 m - Draft: 7,3 m - 218 gross tons